Old Mutual On The Money
Old Mutual On The Money
Comedian Khanyisa Bunu knows financial planning is no laughing matter
When Covid-19 hit, comedian Khanyisa Bunu had to think fast to stay afloat. She started a business and today she is thriving. John Manyike, our Group Head of Financial Education, checked in with Khanyisa to find out how she turned things around and why planning ahead matters.
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John Manyike 00:00:05
Welcome to another episode of Old Mutuals “On The Money”. This time around we have decided to go, or take a different direction and we are joined by an award winning female stand-up comedian, you going to see her now Khanyisa Bunu. How are you?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:00:26
I’m well, how are you? Maybe when you said ‘Stand up’ they thought I would stand on my feet. No
John Manyike 00:00:36
So you can do stand-up comedy, whilst seated?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:00:37
You must stand, it makes more sense standing. (00:46 JM: Oh so it makes more sense when you are standing?) KB: Ja.
John Manyike 00:00:47
Let’s talk about who Khanyisa is, because I mean we see you in the screen, we see you performing in theatres doing stand-up comedy but let’s start with where you grew up and also where this inspiration comes from.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:01:00
Ok I grew up in Whittlesea in the Eastern Cape. Inspiration? I always say that both my parents were very funny, especially my father. My father had jokes for days and he was not even aware that he was funny you know, my mother as well, my mother as well. What makes me laugh about my mother is that she is someone who likes to listen, she’d listen. So, if perhaps I come back from a show she would ask how the show went and I would say ‘I killed’ and she knew what I meant, so I would listen to her when she talked about how she met with someone and she’d tell me how she ‘Killed it!’ So I’m trying to say that I come from a background of very funny people (01:41 JM: Killing people?) Killing people, yes. Killers!
John Manyike 00:01:43
High school?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:01:47
High school, I’ve been all over high school. I went to boarding school. (01:56 JM: Did they admit you into boarding school?) KB: Yes they admitted me, Why? (02:00 JM: Just asking.) Yes I think I grew up in boarding school. Not growing up as in, but learning about life, that I learnt from boarding school. Because in boarding school there are no parents it’s just you and your peers and you have to fend for yourself. Boarding school doesn’t play, on your arrival they welcome you, I don’t know how to put it, and make you feel that you miss your home.
John Manyike 00:02:22
So does this mean that you were the baby of the family. The way you are talking fondly about your mother. Do you have siblings?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:02:30
Ja, I have one, only one sibling on my mother’s side. Let’s not talk about my father’s side. The sun could go down counting how many they are (02:41 JM: They are many? He was not resting?) KB: But now because he’s gone, he is resting in peace. When you’re talking about resting in peace, that’s my father, he’s resting.
John Manyike 00:02:50
So, your talent where did you see that you have this talent?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:02:56
The talent I saw while I was still at home, I used to watch DVD’s. Like not necessarily, I would just… you see at the shop there is a DVD section on special that they put together, so I would buy any DVD back in the day and watch until I came across. I didn’t even know there was something called stand-up comedy, until amongst these DVD I came across stand-up comedy. I came across stand-up comedy and watched and said to myself that I could also do it. Hayi, but I don’t know how to do it, I stay in the Eastern Cape however, this thing, whenever I watch stand-up comedy, I feel that I could do it. Until I saw the advert for ‘So You Think You’re Funny’ they were looking for comedians. Even then I didn’t know it was stand-up, I thought it was something where we would go there and share whatever you want to share, and if they laugh, you would get the money. I was there to compete for money, until at some point they brought in an audience, and I realised, that this is stand-up that I’m doing now you see. Before it was just sharing stories for the judges and then I realised that ok, I’m becoming a stand-up comedian, and I was happy because it’s something I always felt like I could do.
John Manyike 00:03:55
Do you know that people don’t know that you actually studied teaching?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:03:59
Ja they must not know, its fine.
John Manyike 00:04:02
It’s too late now, it’s too late now. So where did you study teaching? And did you actually teach?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:04:07
Yes I did, I did teach. (04:09 JM: Were they taking you seriously?) KB: They were but you know but you know teaching, teaching I always say helped me in terms of having what we call emotional intelligence and not taking everything too seriously. I always say that the Principal of the school I taught at would say that every day, the children would come in and sit in class. They know that they should be praying. We would be required to go and fetch them, and I said I was tired of that because even goats and cows if you took them out, later on even if you didn’t fetch them, they knew they had to return. I said no this is the last day I’m doing this even if there were only five, if it was my day to do prayer sessions, the five of us would pray. I cannot every day. So you shouldn’t overthink teaching because you’ll die before your time.
John Manyike 00:05:01
But then you took a bold decision that you’re leaving it and going into comedy, but where, how, what inspired you to leave teaching? And you are certain that you could survive without it?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:05:13
I wasn’t even sure that I was going to survive, but I was at that point that now I don’t do this anymore. Teaching was not working for me. It wasn’t challenging.
John Manyike 00:05:20
Why was it not working for you?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:05:22
You know when you know that from here, I’m going there. Theres that ceiling, I can’t go beyond that? It becomes boring. You need to look for something that will open the ceiling, you can go as far as you want to go. So for me, I was a level one teacher. That is level one, entry level. I’m an HOD and I don’t want to be an HOD, I don’t want to be a Principal, I don’t want to do anything else, I’m done. Like I want to do something else, I want to grow, I want to dream, I can’t dream of being a school Principal, no I need to dream. I was suffocating in teaching, so I needed to go. And I when I was a teacher, I always had a business. It was too small.
John Manyike 00:06:05
So why did you do teaching in the first place? Was it one of those cases where the parents said get into it?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:06:09
When I got into varsity, I wanted to do law, and I’m glad I did not continue with law. I did my first year in law then I saw that no, there were too many books. I would go into the library and sleep. Literally.
John Manyike 00:06:23
You didn’t enjoy studying?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:06:25
I didn’t like huge books. I would go into the library and sleep. Maybe the for the first hour I would wonder when I would complete this? The assignments, no, no, no. whenever I fell asleep I thought to myself that I couldn’t do it and I failed the first year. My mother said “No my child, I cannot waste my money, what’s happening here?” So I said to here let me do something simple that I know I would pass first time. I took the time and went into teaching. My mother was a teacher, both my parents were teachers and I passed and saw that ok at least I’ll have an income now. Before pursue whatever, if I fail, let me have something to fall back on. So I got into teaching like that. But even then, I saw that no, still.
John Manyike 00:07:12
So, what’s interesting, what I find interesting is teaching you know you are guaranteed a monthly income but stand-up comedy depends on gigs. If there are no gigs, no salary. How do you adjust then from being used to a fixed income every month then all of a sudden, you’re depending on gigs.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:07:37
Imagine you were used to working and now you’re asking your mother every day, ‘Mama please loan me two hundred?” Sometimes you don’t even return it. It was frustrating, but it was something I knew that this was not going to be permanent, I am going to survive on this comedy. Doesn’t matter how long it takes, I have to survive. But fortunately, I came and stayed with my sister my sister was already here. I stayed in the house, so I was not really struggling in terms of food and all, but I knew that I give myself this amount of time, but beyond this time, I have to make it work.
John Manyike 00:08:10
Ok so but, tell me about the adjustments? So you’re used to whatever salary you were getting there every month, jiki-jiki now it’s you know it’s a seasonal income. How were you navigating your finances, having to deal, apart from your sister assisting with food and accommodation?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:08:41
I’ve never been a person of instalments. I’ve never been a person of accounts. The only instalment I’ve ever had in my life is a car instalment. Accounts no, I’ve never had accounts. So if I leave, I leave with the worry of how am I going to finish paying off this car? But for that short period that I taught, I received some little money, I settled the car and then I became a child again. So I would sleep at night, nobody was calling me asking why was I not paying? So it was to adjust with the hope that… So whatever little money I received, it would help me to get my toiletries and maybe to buy something for the house. But I’ve never really felt that struggle. I think it’s also the belief that this is temporary.
John Manyike 00:09:27
So ok, so I gather from what you’re saying that you bought a car. Did you at any point maybe decide to buy a house or something?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:09:31
No, it’s only now that I’m building a house. My mother used to say this, if I won’t do it, I won’t do it. If you say that you’re selling this table and I can pay it off over three months, I don’t want the table because it means I can’t afford it. When I have money I’ll ask you, do you still have that table? I want it.
John Manyike 00:09:53
Alright, now let’s go venture into your comedy career again. You are one of the first female award-winning comedian, stand-up comedian. Tell us more about that award.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:10:08
Ok I’m the first to win the Comedy Choice Award. That was an audience choice award. That award, I worked for that award, and it upset people. I worked for that award (10:23 JM: Why were they upset with you?) KB: This person who was supposed to win the award did not win the award; it was won by me.
John Manyike 00:10:30
Why was it supposed to be won by someone else?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:10:30
That’s what he believed. He believed the award is his and I used to see him. And fortunately, at that time I had a short term job at EWC, at Ekhuruleni West College, I was lecturing there at that time. I worked there (10:46 JM: Part-time lecturing?) KB: Yes, not part-time, full-time, I was working full-time. You know when you have certificates, its good because you don’t have a job you can always get a job. So I got in there fast. (11:03 JM: You got in there fast?) KB: Ok let’s erase that part, I got a job there, I worked at Ekhuruleni West College. So it’s the Comedy Choice Awards, its June and the students were writing exams. So what I’d do, whenever I was invigilating I’d have a piece of paper, as they finished writing as they passed me at the door, I say guys vote for me. I did that for more than three weeks. Today I’m in this class, the today I’m in the next class, whenever I invigilate. So they were telling me that “We are voting.” (11:29 JM: You were campaigning?) KB: Yes but I did it silently, what happens is that, let me tell you, If you’re in a competition of any form and then you see the people you are competing with, you see they are campaigning, you rush to do the same. So I did it silently, without alerting anyone knowing that I’m busy doing this. So my students were voting for me. So that was my advantage, so you see, they never saw it coming. And then after winning the award things weren’t good, it wasn’t good. I always talk about this, I feel so…not regretful but after that award, I had to do so, I had to win so many battles after that award. It was supposed to be something I celebrate but I could not celebrate it.
John Manyike 00:12:20
You’ve travelled many countries doing comedy, what countries were those?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:12:25
Can I start by saying New York, I’ve performed in, ok around I’ve performed in Swaziland, Lesotho, Botswana – I wasn’t paid in Botswana. I was booked by a guy called G Spot, he never paid me in Botswana. Ok, then New York happened by default, I went there for a film festival, yes it was a government sponsored trip. I went for a film festival and I told myself, there is no way I am going to stay for nine days and not perform comedy. So I walked around New York looking for places, opportunities. And in New York, you pay for an open spot. Back then we paid two dollars (13:14 JM: Which year was that?) KB: 2015. You used to pay, you had to pay but here its free. In New York its not free, you pay the guys. So I had to pay those two dollars, two dollars but nine days was too short but I did perform at Greenwich Village, Greenwich Village comedy club, New York.
John Manyike 00:13:36
Now in America, the English spoken there is different to the English spoken here you know? Theres an accent, you know they, they have a way of…did they hear you?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:13:48
Yes they did.
John Manyike 00:13:52
You can’t speak English mixed with Xhosa.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:13:56
I’m laughing because I remember, we were travelling by train underground, and as we stood on the pavement, Neo teases me about that till today, I had forgotten that I’m in New York and spoke to him in Xhosa, he said, “People are staring at you, they are shocked wondering what you’re saying.” Ja so I spoke English and I tried to be slow, so that they would understand me.
John Manyike 00:14:15
It’s said that Xhosa cannot be interpreted.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:14:19
Look, look it cannot be interpreted.
John Manyike 00:14:22
So ok, tell me about your relationship and money. How does it work?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:14:29
Money, money has always alluded me, but it’s coming now.
John Manyike 00:14:34
How does it miss a person like you?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:14:37
I don’t know if I experiment too much. I try this…and I’m not very patient with money. Like I try this, if I tell myself that after six months, I should be making profit and it’s not there, I run for my life. So, I’ve tried so many businesses. I wouldn’t say they failed, maybe I failed the businesses. My relationship with money always been tricky. I’ve had money, but what happens with money, whoever manufactures it, I think takes it back. Theres no way. There must be a way they recall it, and it returns to them. It doesn’t stay put.
John Manyike 00:15:15
So, they manufacture it and take it back again?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:15:17
I want to see the manufacturer and ask why it doesn’t stay; it just comes and goes. I’ve learnt this over the years, don’t spend your money, invest it. I’d rather invest than spend and I always laugh at people. I wish I could show you my phone, I’m not going to get a new one until that one gives in. My phone breaks into pieces, I take it for repairs. For as long as I can send and receive, because I’ve got other things that I need to do, it’s not a priority. This phone has given me so many jobs. It’s been taped up, if you were to see it, you’d be concerned. I was looking at it today and thought I need to get another My Friend to try and repair it, the back is giving… (15:58 JM: So you’ll take it to My Friend to get it repaired.) KB: My friends are always my friends for my phones. So I that’s what I’ve learnt over the years, don’t be in a hurry, build it. Now I’ve got a business that I’m running and I’m happy now, how it’s taking shape and now I’m venturing slowly into manufacturing as well.
John Manyike 00:16:16
But money has Mandela on it so how is it disappearing?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:16:19
Mandela also left. He went to Robben Island, he left us, he was an absent father and he went to Robben Island. And then he left us for good, what more our money? It means that it too one day will disappear for good.
John Manyike 00:16:41
Oh that’s why our money is disappearing for good?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:16:43
Yes and you know him, I can liken him to my father he was also a rolling stone.
John Manyike 00:16:54
Ok now, the challenge with a career where the money is seasonal, it makes planning very difficult, very complex. How do you overcome that?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:17:05
Let me put it this way, I don’t raise expectations. Planning, I’d rather plan with what I have. With what I have now, I don’t care how dry the season is, I built myself a Spaza shop, I will get something there. Now I’m venturing into something else where I know that it doesn’t matter if I make a profit of three hundred a day, that’s profit. Because my concern is getting petrol for that car and driving. Especially now that I have a soccer club as well. Yes, now I’m taking that money and putting it in. I’ve always loved soccer; I don’t know if football still exists in South Africa. I’ve given soccer a break because of Chiefs, I’m a Chiefs fan.
John Manyike 00:17:53
What has Chiefs done?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:17:53
I realised when I saw that Chiefs had a Hollard logo, that they would bury us. And they knew that we would die. Chiefs should at least come to us, we’ll bury you. So I’m awaiting the moment. So not that I have a soccer club, I used to have a club back home but I left, I felt suffocated, I didn’t know what else to do with my life so I came to Gauteng. And then when I was watching Banyana Banyana at the world cup, watching one of my former players playing for Banyana Banyana, Mbambanani Mbane, I was like no, my life is not complete, I miss this thing, I miss the stress of soccer. Soccer will stress you. I decided that I have to form a club. That’s when I started and formed a girl’s club, and I was lucky to have players that listen. As I speak to you now, we are top of the log. We are in the Soshanguve Local Football Association, but it’s another way to lose money especially in the beginning. (19:07 JM: Because you have to invest?) KB: You have to invest. Over invest. So my relationship with money, I’m only discovering the trick now, to take time, don’t buy if you can’t afford it.
John Manyike 00:19:21
Money does need patience.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:19:21
It needs patience and if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
John Manyike 00:19:26
Let’s talk about you owning a soccer club. What is your role? Are you a coach? Are you the chairman, chairlady?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:19:35
Chairlady of the team. But man just means human being. People complain that “This is the man of the match!” and you are a lady. No man refers to human being. Human being yes, we are men, M-A-N yes, we are men so when it comes to man of the match it doesn’t matter, that’s what my interpretation is, so I don’t think its gender specific. So, what was I talking about?
John Manyike 00:20:03
We were asking what your role was.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:20:09
I could be chairman yes; no, I don’t coach. I did do coaching courses back then, it was called ‘Level Zero’ back then. Level Zero, Level one. (20:20 JM: You did a coaching course?) I did a coaching course. I’m not, I’m not fond of coaching I understand soccer, but I don’t think I have that patience.
John Manyike 00:20:29
So, you’re more on the administration side?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:20:29
I run the team; I make sure the team goes to games every weekend. I make sure that I know who your mother is. I go and visit your mother and talk about you and ask if I can have your child to play on my team. I promise you, if you’re playing on the weekend, I make sure you get back home safely. I make that my duty.
John Manyike 00:20:50
So do you have contracts with these players that are on the team?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:20:53
No, I don’t have contracts because I believe that we are still in an amateur… We are in a development.
John Manyike 00:21:05
So what if one of your players that you’re grooming is spotted by a Barcelona, Manchester City, shouldn’t you be having some kind of a contract to manage them properly and then being able to place them wherever opportunities rise?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:21:18
I think that after today, I’m going to start having those contracts. Because, you know when they are playing in Soshanguve League, I never thought that someone would spot them. I never thought beyond Soshanguve because I thought that for this season we are here. Maybe next year when we start playing in regionals, I can start thinking about that, because I think you are right because already my under 15’s have been selected for Tshwane. And then this weekend they are going for provincials. The aim is to make sure we have them where they can get national colours at a young age. I always tell them that guys, I want national colours in this team.
John Manyike 00:21:53
You see, because if you don’t have any contracts anybody can just negotiate behind you and then they take the very same players that you are grooming but then that person is the one that is making money because they are now the one responsible for negotiating contracts, they become the agent. So it has to, you have to see it as a business.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:22:15
I was at, I think a week ago I was at SAFA House because I wanted to get information on how to be a football agent because as much as I want to run football, I feel that I’d love to be an agent as well. But there isn’t time.
John Manyike 00:22:29
But the reason is that you’re wearing this yellow t-shirt and complaining at the same time.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:22:36
We’ve been trapped. He said it was a family business and now I see it.
John Manyike 00:22:39
So how does a person enter into family business affairs.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:22:43
However, let me tell you something about football, that thing is addictive. Once you choose a team, it’s for life. It’s not easy to cross over
John Manyike 00:22:48
So, now, you’re juggling different things, you are grooming a team, you have your own small soccer team, you are grooming players on the other hand there’s comedy, but you have this qualification as a teacher. When you look at your future, where do you see yourself career wise? Where do you want to focus the most?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:23:15
Hey… (23:22 JM: You see when you start off saying Hey!) KB: No, no, my dream is to be a filmmaker. That’s my dream.
John Manyike 00:23:23
So we’re into filmmaking now?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:23:23
Ja because I’m a writer. I write. Like I’ve been writing. Sometimes I feel as though 24 hours is not enough for my day.
John Manyike 00:23:33
You need how many hours?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:23:33
36 at least. I want to be a filmmaker. Already my friends and I have formed a film production company. We shot something like three months ago, it’s called “Khanyisa and Friends.” I was interviewing all these TikTok people. But that’s where I wanna go finally. But now I’m still…
John Manyike 00:24:01
Are you not feeling that maybe because it’s one person, if you’re not doing comedy you’re in soccer and then there’s the filmmaking. How are you going to juggle between all of this?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:24:13
I don’t want to want to be restless when I die. I want to rest. If I don’t do everything I want to do, I’ll be restless because my heart is still on the thing I never got to do. I want to go down silently.
John Manyike 00:24:27
Ja, having given your all.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:24:28
Given my all. And whenever I see my players receiving these accolades, I feel proud. I found players who were scattered. I brought them together. Even the club that I started back home. Even if I’m losing financially for now, I’m like ok as long as I see a child prospering, my heart is happy and also I believe in giving back. I’ve got nothing to give but I want to give, I want to give, I want to give. So I cannot, I love football so much that …people don’t know this, I don’t think that, I love even gaming itself, when I’m at home, I’m on Playstation, FIFA. People get shocked when I tell them about this.
John Manyike 00:25:19
Do you play online?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:25:19
No, no, I play alone. Just the games. But if its football. So there’s no way I can remove it from my life. So I’m just saying, let me accommodate all of this but not let it overwhelm me you see. My team is in the lower division. Next season I’ll be ready if we get the promotion, but I don’t see how we cannot get the league with the manner in which we’re playing now. I need to be ready, but I cannot leave those things. I want to write stories; I want you to watch a movie that I’ve written. I want to produce movies and all that, but I don’t think its too much. When I feel it’s too much maybe I’ll take the back seat but so far, I think what I’m doing… I don’t perform everyday for comedy. I’ve got days where I sit at home and do nothing especially during the day.
John Manyike 00:26:11
You know why I keep asking these questions about how you’re juggling and whether you’ve formalised these contractual things, it’s because when you have a talent or a passion, you need to find a way to monetise it you understand? So that you can know that you have multiple streams of income. Yes, there may be certain things that you want to do to plough back, but you do need to have foresight because you know with comedy, new people come into the scene or people no longer find your jokes funny, you know that you have other means of income you see? But when you look at the income you generate through comedy, do you think it’s enough to sustain your life or are you tempted to go back to teaching?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:27:03
No, not teaching. Money will never be enough. I want to meet with Motsepe and ask him if he has enough money. I’ve never heard anyone say money is enough. Money will never be enough. Money will always want to make more money. Like I’m saying now, I’ve ventured into businesses that I think will give me money. So not enough but I don’t think I will ever go back to what happened to me during 2020 during Covid. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to that state because Covid opened my eyes. I realised that money can go away at anytime. Four months into Covid I was broke. So I made a decision that this can’t happen again.
John Manyike 00:27:47
I’m glad you said that, because you know Covid, yes as much as it took a lot of people away from us, family members, loved ones, but it also came to teach us some harsh lessons about foresight and planning. Planning for emergencies and all that. In your case, now that you’ve felt that during Covid, you got to a point where you are broke, what have you done since then?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:28:20
That’s when I started a chicken business in the middle of Covid.
John Manyike 00:28:24
There's also a chicken business?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:28:24
No I left that. I told you that if I see something. Actually, I realised that every time I bought feed, it was more expensive than the last time. I’m not even sure if I’m making a profit so I left it. Then converted the premises into something else that isn’t seasonal that is making money for me.
John Manyike 00:28:45
What is that? What have you converted them into?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:28:48
I have a small lounge. I started off with a Spaza shop. Now I’ve got a lounge, people come sit down. (28:57 JM: They can have their drinks there?) KB: Yes.
John Manyike 00:29:00
You don’t seem to be telling us everything. You’re sharing only a little bit.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:29:02
No, it’s still in its infant stage. I’m still growing it. I think one day I’ll do a grand opening you see? So those are lessons I learnt from Covid that never again. Everyday something must come, money must come in. doesn’t matter how small it is but it must come in.
John Manyike 00:29:19
Ok, for you to master money, you did say that your relationship with money is a bit tricky, how are you ensuring that you are speaking to the right professionals to help you?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:29:34
Don’t professionals require money themselves? I don’t want anything to do with things that require me to lose money, that’s why I also no longer attend church. (29:44 JM: Is there anything for free on earth?) I went to this other church, and on the first day they said they were building this thing and money was required of us so I never went back to that church. No what I’m trying to say is I get scared to use money. Someone that will tell me to give them money so they can teach me how to make money?
John Manyike 00:30:15
You can talk to a financial adviser that can advise you every month, to put this money here, invest there and this will be for this period. That’s what a financial planning.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:30:26
Will that require money from me?
John Manyike 00:30:27
Ok when you go to a doctor, do you go for free?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:30:30
A doctor, it’s a matter of life and death that we’re talking about here.
John Manyike 00:30:37
Is money not a matter of life and death?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:30:38
Yes, perhaps.
John Manyike 00:30:40
So take that financial adviser.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:30:44
Do you have any recommendations?
John Manyike 00:30:45
There are many.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:30:46
They must make sure they know what they’re talking about.
John Manyike 00:30:51
Absolutely. I think it’s a good thing to talk to a financial adviser then you have a proper financial plan. Otherwise Covid would not have taught us anything. Because we can easily find ourselves in that situation, because when I look at the things you are talking about, I can tell that you don’t have a problem with trying things out and that’s important. You just need to partner with the right professional, like a financial adviser so when money comes in, how do you invest it. Because otherwise you become a conveyor belt, money comes in and goes out. It doesn’t stay.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:31:28
I think that’s happened a lot in my life.
John Manyike 00:31:34
Alright, as we conclude then, what would you advise anyone who is trying to create different opportunities for business or is trying to make money in different ways based on your lessons that you learnt?
Khanyisa Bunu 00:31:50
Talk to a financial adviser.
John Manyike 00:31:53
You’re a fast learner.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:31:57
Make sure you talk to a reputable person. Also, my mother used to say that you should respect money. Put it in order. So when I open my wallet, I make sure its in order. Don’t allow it to drive you crazy, once that happens you lose money. Be sober minded, form a good relationship with money.
John Manyike 00:32:49
Khanyisa thank you so much for joining us, it was a fun conversation. Yes, it was serious but relatable, so thank you for joining us and I’m hoping that our followers will certainly enjoy this episode.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:33:04
And they’ll sponsor my team, I need a bus, I need a minibus for my players, please.
John Manyike 00:33:14
Change that t-shirt first, perhaps then.
Khanyisa Bunu 00:33:19
They say that we all have a past so you don’t just let go, it’s the story of my life I’ve been through a lot guys but please may I have a minibus.
John Manyike 00:33:31
Thank you so much.